WARNING - FAKE LIVESAY KNIVES

I guess it is supposed to be some kind of honor or prestigious point in a maker's career when someone copies his product design(s). I have had a number of items, and knives or designs ripped off over the years, and manufactured under different names by other makers or in some cases so called reputable manufactures. The quality of some of these copied knives is questionable. When my WOO design first hit the market and we were churning out 500 a week, and still were backordered, a stainless steel rip off version came out of Pakistan. They were nice looking, stainless steel, and even had my name stamped on the blade. The only thing is they were not heat-treated, and the quality was less than that of a Tuna fish can lid.  I did not make them, and once I tracked down the importer who lived out of state I made a personnel visit to his location, and informed him how the cow eats the cabbage.  I took all of the knives from his warehouse (not paying him a dime) and destroyed them at our factory in Siloam Springs, Arkansas. Rule of thumb:  If you buy something, just because it “looks like” a Livesay does not mean it meets my standards. I could care less about some of these rip-offs that do not have my name stamped on them because the people who are familiar with my products know that I make a quality knives that will hold up when needed. I have always said, “That if your life depends on it, my knives will not fail you when called upon.”   One other example is makers like Bob Loveless whose drop point hunter design is one of the most copied knives on earth.  Hell I even have made a drop point hunters that look a heck of a lot like a Bob Loveless, but I did not put his name on them.  Many people do use put Mr. Loveless' name on worthless pieces of crap and try to pass it off as his "Naked Ladies" model.  Bob Loveless is one of many famous makers being ripped off everyday both here and overseas by unscrupulous unimaginative "ass-holes."          

Therefore, here is the rub. I got an email, and later a knife from a customer, collector, and a newfound friend recently. The customer lives in Florida and like unusual Livesay Knives such as prototypes, and one of a kind customs, etc. Seems he purchased a quote “Prototype” Livesay knife from a dealer at a Gun & Knife Show for $600.00. Contacting me, he was happy about his find and wanted me to give him some background on the knife. I asked him to send me the knife, he did. IT WAS A FAKE. It had my name, etc. stamped on the blade, and an original bolt on knife clip made by me attached to the sheath. It looked damn good; the knife clip that is. This sheath clip was the only thing that was made by me. I sell extra clips for a couple of dollars and have sold over the years a few hundred to customers who want to have an additional clip if theirs breaks? My customer said he would take the knife back to the dealer and demand his money back. I should have kept the knife, but I knew the man would not get his money back if he did not have a knife to return.

All right, this brings us to another more pressing and up to date problem with FAKE LIVESAY KNIVES. Two other customer, and friends, one being a retired U.S. Army Ranger/Scout/Sniper recently brought to my attention the fact that a dealer in Oklahoma is selling knives with my name on them. The knives are all neck knives and the customer said that they overall are of poor quality. They are housed in KYDEX sheaths, and one even had my name, and logo stamped into the KYDEX sheath belt clip. Both customers have told me that the seller said he knew me personally, and that we were good friends.  He also stated that may name was not Newt but was Newton, and that I lived about one hundred miles from my present home in Arkansas. He said I just tell everyone I live in Arkansas.

So here is the point. I know there are a number of people who collect my knives for one reason or the other, and will  never use them. I have seen some of the prices that are paid for my earlier knives on e-Bay, and other sites.  I am truly humbled by the generosity and favor heaped upon my work by many users and collectors.  I have been offered some good money if I would make some older styles and stamp them with “old dates of manufacture.”   Well I have done a hell of a lot of things in my life, and for damn sure I could use the money, but I have not nor will I ever compromise dates, and or my name for vanity. I collected different makers and company knives for a number of years, and would have been madder that a stomped rattler if someone had pawned off some fakes on me.

I would like to advise, and warn anyone who might be looking for any of my older knives to use or collect to be warned. If for any reason when you find a knife that is stamped one of a kind or prototype, and supposedly manufactured by me; ASK QUESTIONS.

Ask the seller for some identification, a phone number, an address, etc. Ask if you can return the knife if it is not a real Livesay manufactured knife. Hell if I am spending five or six hundred dollars for anyone's knife from someone I do not know I want to see the seller’s driver license or some form of legal identification. That just makes sense to me. First off, I am sure that anyone who is selling a genuine Livesay prototype, etc., will be more than happy to give you their name, and some form of contact information. One thief we have heard of in Oklahoma is selling FAKE Livesay knives, and will not give out his name  or any identification; I would not deal with him.

If you suspect anyone selling a knife with my name on it and if you consider it too be a FAKE, please contact me.  I will personally give take care of the problem.  I might even be quite generous with some genuine Livesay gifts.

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